12:07:11 From Lindsey Tolis : Dust Mitigation on LSIC: https://lsic.jhuapl.edu/Our-Work/Focus-Areas/index.php?fg=Dust-Mitigation 12:07:34 From Lindsey Tolis : Dust Mitigation on Confluence: https://lsic-wiki.jhuapl.edu/x/EIAZ 12:09:27 From Lindsey Tolis : Email lsic-wiki-admins@listserv.jhuapl.edu for access to our Confluence Wiki. 12:10:45 From Lindsey Tolis : LSWG on LSIC Webpage https://lsic.jhuapl.edu/Our-Work/Working-Groups/Lunar-Simulants.php 12:12:07 From Tara Vega (Blue Origin) : Not all particles contain Fe right? So not all particles are magnetic? 12:15:45 From Don Barker : Correct. Nanophase Fe is created in the grain surface by the interaction with solar radiation. 12:15:50 From Lindsey Tolis : Tara, we'll make sure your question is asked at the end of the presentation. Everyone else, please feel free to post questions here! 12:15:53 From Lindsey Tolis : LSWG Confluence Page https://lsic-wiki.jhuapl.edu/display/LSWG/Lunar+Simulants+Working+Group+Home 12:19:50 From Jorge Nunez : LSWG on LSIC Webpage: https://lsic.jhuapl.edu/Our-Work/Working-Groups/Lunar-Simulants.php Assessments under “Assessments & Databases” tab 12:21:57 From Don Barker to Jorge Nunez(Direct Message) : Hi Jorge. How have you been doing? How can I get a copy of this presentation? 12:22:46 From Jorge Nunez to Don Barker(Direct Message) : Hi Don! Glad you were able to dial in! How are you? How are things at Collins? Hope all is well. 12:23:02 From Jorge Nunez to Don Barker(Direct Message) : We plan to post the slides on the LSIC webpage. 12:23:54 From Don Barker to Jorge Nunez(Direct Message) : Ok good. Collins is good but only 2 weeks into it. Will be working on suits and lunar rovers. 12:24:26 From Jorge Nunez to Don Barker(Direct Message) : That's great! 12:24:54 From Alexander Lüking -FibreCoat- to Jorge Nunez(Direct Message) : Hi Jorge, I hope you are fine? Just wanted to get your opinion on what we have presented last time about MoonFibre. Was the presentation how you have expected it or was it not enough scientific? Your opinion would help us to improve. Thanks a gain for that great opportunity! Alex 12:26:32 From Jorge Nunez to Alexander Lüking -FibreCoat-(Direct Message) : Hi Alexander! Great to have you join today! Your presentation was very helpful. 12:27:35 From Alexander Lüking -FibreCoat- to Jorge Nunez(Direct Message) : Thanks Jorge!! 12:28:52 From Jorge Nunez : Lunar Simulants WG Meeting right after our LSIC Dust Mitigation FG Meeting: Meeting ID: 161 580 7672 Passcode: 828569 Meeting link at: https://lsic-wiki.jhuapl.edu/display/LSWG/Lunar+Simulants+Working+Group+Home 12:29:16 From Miria Finckenor : I missed what reference you were looking for on chart 12. 12:29:26 From Rickards, Ross M (US) : Another good resource on simulants: https://simulantdb.com/ 12:31:26 From Ryan Kobrick, PhD : Hello everyone! Can you add a link here for Doug's talk coming up? 12:31:38 From NTB Holdings LLC : Can someone put the link on the chat for this meeting at 1 pm? 12:31:52 From Karen Stockstill-Cahill : Join ZoomGov Meeting https://jhuapl.zoomgov.com/j/1615807672?pwd=MzlzSDRraHh4aDNld3FmRjVBWjdsUT09 12:31:54 From Jorge Nunez : Lunar Simulants WG Meeting right after our LSIC Dust Mitigation FG Meeting: Meeting ID: 161 580 7672 Passcode: 828569 Meeting link at: https://lsic-wiki.jhuapl.edu/display/LSWG/Lunar+Simulants+Working+Group+Home 12:33:21 From Lindsey Tolis : If you'd like to ask a question, please post it here or raise your virtual hand (under the Reactions menu on Zoom). 12:36:56 From Don Barker : https://ares.jsc.nasa.gov/projects/simulants/development-lab.html 12:39:46 From Jorge Nunez : @Miria: If you have a link to the pages/files that you scanned, let us know and we can add it to the Resources page on the Wiki. 12:40:08 From Wesley Fuhrman (he/him) : Thanks, Karen! 12:43:10 From Don Barker : https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S009457652200340X 12:45:02 From Melissa Roth : Agreed @Don To also add a question: How will different environmental and test conditions affect the properties of the simulant and how it will interact within the test/experiment? 12:45:37 From Jorge Nunez : Thanks @Melissa! 12:46:29 From Lindsey Tolis : Great question, Melissa. At a minimum, there's an ongoing discussion about vacuum levels and how it affects dust activity. 12:47:43 From Lindsey Tolis : NASA-STD-1008: https://standards.nasa.gov/standard/NASA/NASA-STD-1008 12:52:04 From Don Barker : @Melissa - good question. Yes, the interaction with the environment is very important. Electrostatics and Earth atmos water is an example. See my dust adhesion experiment paper. 12:52:08 From Nathan Jimenez : Related to dust testing environments, is there an interest in setting up a "dirty vacuum chamber working group". I know I and several other researchers had to learn from the ground up (often trial by error) some of the best practices for testing with simulant in a vacuum chamber. There are several chambers currently being built up across NASA and industry, and I was thinking it could be beneficial for everyone involved if we could share our lessons learned and challenges we are facing. 12:53:08 From Don Barker : @Nathan - that might be better as a sub topic of this group then a completely separate group and meeting. 12:53:28 From Tara Vega (Blue Origin) : I plan on doing these sorts of test in the upcoming years and would be interested in these sorts of discussions 12:54:05 From Lindsey Tolis : That is great to know and we will discuss that in the context of the upcoming Dust Workshop! 12:54:33 From Lindsey Tolis : LSIC Events: https://lsic.jhuapl.edu/Events/ 12:54:46 From Melissa Roth : @Lindsey and Don Yes, looking at how the simulant will operate as a variable in a test setup is something OPR has been advocating for. Just as important as choosing the right simulant is understanding how to use it. 12:55:13 From Julie Peck : Surface Power group Reliability workshop, July 26-27: https://lsic.jhuapl.edu/Events/Agenda/index.php?id=443 Hope to see you there! 12:55:38 From Melissa Roth : @Nathan, there is a Vacuum subgroup in Extreme Environments that does discuss dirty vac environments and has a resource document. Stephen Indyk with Honeybee Robotics runs it. 12:55:48 From Sarah Hasnain : Registration for the Lunar Proving Grounds Workshop is open! Virtual and In-Person @ APL, July 12-13: https://lsic.jhuapl.edu/Events/Agenda/index.php?id=460 12:56:21 From Lindsey Tolis : DAP presentations: https://impact.colorado.edu/dap/2023/0_programschedule.html 12:56:27 From Nathan Jimenez : @Melissa, great to know! I will check it out. 12:57:22 From Julie Peck to Jorge Nunez(Direct Message) : Thanks for the plug Jorge! 12:58:34 From Lindsey Tolis : Email us at Facilitator_DustMitigation@jhuapl.edu 12:59:32 From Lindsey Tolis : White Paper info: https://lsic.jhuapl.edu/Resources/LSIC-Resources.php 13:00:13 From Lindsey Tolis : Lunar Simulants WG Meeting right after our LSIC Dust Mitigation FG Meeting: Meeting ID: 161 580 7672 Passcode: 828569 Meeting link at: https://lsic-wiki.jhuapl.edu/display/LSWG/Lunar+Simulants+Working+Group+Home 13:00:28 From Sarah Hasnain : Thanks Lindsey for sharing links!